While Joe was in New Zealand He interviewed Dr. James White. Before the interview starts Jimmy and Joe talk about the value of bow ties, and afterward they suggest that Dr. White is really a cyborg. During the interview Joe talks to James about apologetics, what James does and does not debate, and why James believes that the doctrine of Scripture is the most critical doctrine in maintaining orthodoxy. Plus, James pulls a "Jimmy" and plays with with phone during the interview.
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